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		<title>by: khaja</title>
		<link>http://www.chowrangi.com/punishment-for-black-magicians.html#comment-204842</link>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Oct 2008 13:36:01 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Shakir... you know nothing about the black magic and when someone does not know about something they should not talk anything about that thing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Shakir&#8230; you know nothing about the black magic and when someone does not know about something they should not talk anything about that thing.</p>
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		<title>by: Hina</title>
		<link>http://www.chowrangi.com/punishment-for-black-magicians.html#comment-195994</link>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Sep 2008 08:33:02 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>This made me feel much better. thanks :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This made me feel much better. thanks <img src='http://www.chowrangi.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>by: Mohammad Yusha</title>
		<link>http://www.chowrangi.com/punishment-for-black-magicians.html#comment-121852</link>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Feb 2008 01:06:16 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>A child ended up with stomach pain. His father took him to a clinic. Medicine was given but the pain grew worse. This continued for a few months. This turned into years. Hospitals, injections, tablets, syrups, tests, x-rays, everything.

After 5 years someone suggested that it might be black magic. The father wanted to laugh it off but the exhaustion of hospital trips and 
the pain of seeing his child suffer for 5 years made him try this too. An amil was called and he went through a regular procedure. From that day onwards the child did not feel any stomach pain.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A child ended up with stomach pain. His father took him to a clinic. Medicine was given but the pain grew worse. This continued for a few months. This turned into years. Hospitals, injections, tablets, syrups, tests, x-rays, everything.</p>
<p>After 5 years someone suggested that it might be black magic. The father wanted to laugh it off but the exhaustion of hospital trips and<br />
the pain of seeing his child suffer for 5 years made him try this too. An amil was called and he went through a regular procedure. From that day onwards the child did not feel any stomach pain.</p>
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		<title>by: loverofGod</title>
		<link>http://www.chowrangi.com/punishment-for-black-magicians.html#comment-121791</link>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Feb 2008 18:59:23 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Yes, that is what I am saying. 

I suffered with a very severe stomach ache for many many months, it is still not gone, that worsened each week...until I was hospitalized after contracting a so called virus that nearly put me in a coma, since the hospital almost did NOT admit me...that involved excruciating severe burning pain and festering in my entire abdomen. I have had dozens of different tests and western medicine was UNABLE to find a cause of the shooting stabbing pains.

The point is this...black magic CAN cause physical problems that western medicine will NEVER be able to diagnose.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, that is what I am saying. </p>
<p>I suffered with a very severe stomach ache for many many months, it is still not gone, that worsened each week&#8230;until I was hospitalized after contracting a so called virus that nearly put me in a coma, since the hospital almost did NOT admit me&#8230;that involved excruciating severe burning pain and festering in my entire abdomen. I have had dozens of different tests and western medicine was UNABLE to find a cause of the shooting stabbing pains.</p>
<p>The point is this&#8230;black magic CAN cause physical problems that western medicine will NEVER be able to diagnose.</p>
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		<title>by: Mohammad Yusha</title>
		<link>http://www.chowrangi.com/punishment-for-black-magicians.html#comment-121784</link>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Feb 2008 18:33:19 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Are you telling me that doctors today cannot figure out the reason for a stomach ache?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Are you telling me that doctors today cannot figure out the reason for a stomach ache?</p>
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		<title>by: Shakir Lakhani</title>
		<link>http://www.chowrangi.com/punishment-for-black-magicians.html#comment-121775</link>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Feb 2008 18:07:59 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>This is for &quot;loverofgod&quot;. It's true that sometimes doctors are stumped, but that is because knowledge of that particular disease is not advanced. Every day brings new advances in medicine. If doctors can't temporarily cure someone, it doesn't mean the patient has been affected by black magic. In 1947, two babies out of three died shorty after birth. Today ninety babies out of hundred survive. This shows you how much medical science has progressed.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is for &#8220;loverofgod&#8221;. It&#8217;s true that sometimes doctors are stumped, but that is because knowledge of that particular disease is not advanced. Every day brings new advances in medicine. If doctors can&#8217;t temporarily cure someone, it doesn&#8217;t mean the patient has been affected by black magic. In 1947, two babies out of three died shorty after birth. Today ninety babies out of hundred survive. This shows you how much medical science has progressed.</p>
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		<title>by: Mohammad Yusha</title>
		<link>http://www.chowrangi.com/punishment-for-black-magicians.html#comment-121590</link>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Feb 2008 00:21:40 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>learning it is kufr, practicing it is kufr and going to someone who practices black magic to harm others is also kufr. In all 3 cases a person becomes a kafir and will burn in hell till eternity.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>learning it is kufr, practicing it is kufr and going to someone who practices black magic to harm others is also kufr. In all 3 cases a person becomes a kafir and will burn in hell till eternity.</p>
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		<title>by: loverofGod</title>
		<link>http://www.chowrangi.com/punishment-for-black-magicians.html#comment-121554</link>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Feb 2008 21:39:52 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>sorry I made a typo...it should say that GO undiagnosed....basically, doctors find nothing wring with a person although they may be twitching, epilepsy, with severe pain, often with internal organs, hair falling out for no reason, or paralysis.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>sorry I made a typo&#8230;it should say that GO undiagnosed&#8230;.basically, doctors find nothing wring with a person although they may be twitching, epilepsy, with severe pain, often with internal organs, hair falling out for no reason, or paralysis.</p>
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		<title>by: loverofGod</title>
		<link>http://www.chowrangi.com/punishment-for-black-magicians.html#comment-121553</link>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Feb 2008 21:37:54 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Krash...
This is taken from another post on another Forum...a very good overall explanation of magic.

The Reality of Magic

Definition of magic:

1) Magic is a knot or spell that has effects on the heart and body, It causes the heart or body to become sick, it can kill a person, it separates a man and his wife, and destroys family ties. In very serius cases it can cause death. A very good sign of magic is severe physical symptoms that cannot be undiagnosed by doctors...tests reveal nothing is wrong.

2) It is an incantation, knot, spell, and statement that are used in speeches, written or in actions that have an effect on the body, heart or intellect of a person wihtout having direct contact with that person. It is a reality that kills, causes sickness, or prevents relationships (sexual) between a man and his wife, causes separation between them, or between families, places anger betwen families or friends, and causes a person to love those whom he hates in order to have a relationship and to be a source of spreading destruction. Many people are practicing it because they are jealous and filled with hatred of themselves and their own lives.

Magic and its existence is confirmed by the Qur'aan and Sunnah and is agreed upon bythe scholars. It is a reality and a truth, and it affects a person only by Allah's will. There is a consensus among the scholars of Tafseer that Surah Al-Falaq was revealed because of Habeebbin Asum who did magic on the Prophet.

Magic is an art that requires skill and proficiency from the one who performs it. It is a type of knowledge that has a foundation, methodology and priniciples. However, learning it is not permissible and it is kufr (disbelief) because it cannot be learned or practiced without requesting the help of SHaytaan, worshipping him, and using forbidden and unlawful things. So it is kufr to learn or practice it.

Imam Ibn Hajar (rahimuhullah) said: &quot; Magic is disbelief and learning it is kufr.&quot; Fath ul Bari 10/195

Imam An-Nawawi (rahimuhullah) said: &quot; THe knowledge of magic is forbidden and it is among the major sins.&quot; Fatawa Ibn Baz 2/384

The Prophet included it among hte major sins that destroy mankind and needs to be kept away from.

Ibn Qudaamah said: &quot; teaching and learning magic is forbidden and there is no difference on the issue by the scholars.&quot; Al-Mughnee 8/151

Stay away from these people who practice these things. The negative energies from such people can be transfered to you if you accept food, gifts, or with intense interaction with them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Krash&#8230;<br />
This is taken from another post on another Forum&#8230;a very good overall explanation of magic.</p>
<p>The Reality of Magic</p>
<p>Definition of magic:</p>
<p>1) Magic is a knot or spell that has effects on the heart and body, It causes the heart or body to become sick, it can kill a person, it separates a man and his wife, and destroys family ties. In very serius cases it can cause death. A very good sign of magic is severe physical symptoms that cannot be undiagnosed by doctors&#8230;tests reveal nothing is wrong.</p>
<p>2) It is an incantation, knot, spell, and statement that are used in speeches, written or in actions that have an effect on the body, heart or intellect of a person wihtout having direct contact with that person. It is a reality that kills, causes sickness, or prevents relationships (sexual) between a man and his wife, causes separation between them, or between families, places anger betwen families or friends, and causes a person to love those whom he hates in order to have a relationship and to be a source of spreading destruction. Many people are practicing it because they are jealous and filled with hatred of themselves and their own lives.</p>
<p>Magic and its existence is confirmed by the Qur&#8217;aan and Sunnah and is agreed upon bythe scholars. It is a reality and a truth, and it affects a person only by Allah&#8217;s will. There is a consensus among the scholars of Tafseer that Surah Al-Falaq was revealed because of Habeebbin Asum who did magic on the Prophet.</p>
<p>Magic is an art that requires skill and proficiency from the one who performs it. It is a type of knowledge that has a foundation, methodology and priniciples. However, learning it is not permissible and it is kufr (disbelief) because it cannot be learned or practiced without requesting the help of SHaytaan, worshipping him, and using forbidden and unlawful things. So it is kufr to learn or practice it.</p>
<p>Imam Ibn Hajar (rahimuhullah) said: &#8221; Magic is disbelief and learning it is kufr.&#8221; Fath ul Bari 10/195</p>
<p>Imam An-Nawawi (rahimuhullah) said: &#8221; THe knowledge of magic is forbidden and it is among the major sins.&#8221; Fatawa Ibn Baz 2/384</p>
<p>The Prophet included it among hte major sins that destroy mankind and needs to be kept away from.</p>
<p>Ibn Qudaamah said: &#8221; teaching and learning magic is forbidden and there is no difference on the issue by the scholars.&#8221; Al-Mughnee 8/151</p>
<p>Stay away from these people who practice these things. The negative energies from such people can be transfered to you if you accept food, gifts, or with intense interaction with them.</p>
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		<title>by: Mohammad Yusha</title>
		<link>http://www.chowrangi.com/punishment-for-black-magicians.html#comment-121497</link>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Feb 2008 17:49:25 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>i have seen black magicians suffer with my own eyes. One infection after another, misery and grief. The reason they continue is because they do not realise that the infections are a result of practicing black magic.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i have seen black magicians suffer with my own eyes. One infection after another, misery and grief. The reason they continue is because they do not realise that the infections are a result of practicing black magic.</p>
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