but still, a country like USA has a majority of senators who have served in their armd forces for a long long duration and later have been involved in politics. Retired gens from US armd forces have been on some of the highest posts.

How about discussing the issue in Pakistani scenario? cause I don’t think Army in US take over civilian governments and I don’t think Army in US bomb and burn alive it’s own people in US.

If you check the post again, it clearly mentions how many from the armed forces were inducted in place of civilian positions when large number civilians were available in the pool (most of them made OSD to accommodate army guys)

Now an ordinary citizen of Pakistan has to compete with another entity on the quota, the Army.

As far as govt docs are concerned, please i dont even care to comment on it. I personally know a govt doc, who kept on receiving his pay check for three months even after he had stopped going to clinic in Sawaan village near jhelum. And i also know a doc, personally, who never has visits the clinic again near pindi in a village only 2-3 times a week and spends the rest in his hometown, working in a private clinic. but still he receives his pay for the entire month. Have you ever considered that the monitor could have tried to bring the doctor back in line and the comments what so ever were given in retaliation. I personally don;t think that HR or adm job requires any sort of medical experience. There are always two sides to every story. Never formulate an opinion w/o hearing out both.

I am sorry to hear your bad experiences with civilian doctors. But these 2 are out of how many? and does this justifies hiring people from the armed forces? If armed forces think civilians are corrupt or useless then why don’t they close down the civil services academy?

We have all seen the role of civil society after 2005 earthquake, worst catastrophe happened in the history of Pakistan. Civil Society was far more active and vigilant than the Army and what happened when Army took over the rescue operations, we all know. I have ground facts about relief operations so I am in better position to comment on this

I am sure you are not representing the Army here

I dont understand, why do we take away the good things when we come to criticizing a subj.
Still i maintain, employment of army pers, IN SERVICE to any other department than the army is something amazingly strange , a practice that should be made constitutionally illegal. After retirement, hmm i think there is no harm. army businesses, well they are being run by civil/retired army officers so there is no harm in that too. We have a very large army, and definitely they also need to run the administrative affairs. The airforce also runs fizaia and the navy behria. that is their requirement. the fact is that the business is being run with internally generated money, that is from the DSOP fund of the entire army, the benevolent funds and many other sources. I srsly see no harm in the armd forces having welfare org. After all the US army also runs a pvt business of US War Veteren Foundation.

•98 posts in the Ministry of Communications
•113 in the Ministry of Defence,
•52 in the Ministry of Defence Production
•24 in the Ministry of Foreign Affairs
•88 military posts in the Ministry of Interior
•29 in the Ministry of Industries, Production, and Special Initiatives
•58 in the Ministry of Information Technology
•39 in the Ministry of Petroleum and Natural Resources
•72 in the Ministry of Railways
•37 in the Ministry of Water and Power”

Two other interesting articles:
WP: Musharraf’s Military Reaches Deep Into Pakistani Society

“DAULAT NAGAR, Pakistan — Nusrat Riaz, a doctor for 17 years, has spent the past three directing a clinic that provides care to thousands of poor patients in this remote, wheat-farming village on the plains of Punjab.

So Riaz was surprised this spring when he learned the government had appointed a monitor to look over his shoulder as he worked. He was even more surprised when he learned the man had no medical background, had no experience supervising doctors and was functionally illiterate.

But when Riaz learned the monitor was a retired Pakistani army officer, it all made sense. “This is part of the militarization of the entire country,” said Riaz, 46. “It is very insulting, and it is happening because of the man sitting at the top.”

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AND

OpenDemocracy’s Pakistan: the army as the state

“There are several scenes from Ziauddin Sardar’s forthcoming film in the Dispatches series on Channel 4 television that I won’t forget in a hurry. In one, Sardar has the pleasure of accompanying the Karachi police on a night-time anti-terror raid and is later brought face-to-face with a would-be suicide-terrorist.

In another, he walks out of a supermarket and proceeds to empty his shopping bag: out pops a box of cornflakes, followed by some washing powder, and more. Each item, he tells the camera, has been manufactured by a military-run conglomerate. As he leaves, the camera focuses on the building next to where he is standing: it is a branch of the Askari bank, a nationwide network owned by the Army Welfare Trust.”
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