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	<title>Comments on: Bilal Musharraf: Making deals while Papa Musharraf is on the throne</title>
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		<title>by: Fish</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Aug 2008 05:16:53 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>I have been very crtical of Musharraf sb politics and the manner in which he ruled the country but one thing we must never forget that any human living on the face of the earth is neither a complete devil nor a complete angel. Musharraf sb enjoys immense respect and dignity among his very close friends (non political) by the way of his treatment to all and sundry in his family's social life. Another aspect for sure is that he is a smart man and he would never have allowed such records of this kind of high profile meeting if there was something &quot;wrong&quot; with it. 

Thank you!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have been very crtical of Musharraf sb politics and the manner in which he ruled the country but one thing we must never forget that any human living on the face of the earth is neither a complete devil nor a complete angel. Musharraf sb enjoys immense respect and dignity among his very close friends (non political) by the way of his treatment to all and sundry in his family&#8217;s social life. Another aspect for sure is that he is a smart man and he would never have allowed such records of this kind of high profile meeting if there was something &#8220;wrong&#8221; with it. </p>
<p>Thank you!</p>
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		<title>by: Sabir Ayub Amjad</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Aug 2008 07:40:35 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Dear Friends,

Kinldy continue all this, becouse we have learn this all ...

throw stone on other, and not to be possitive, even if the angel come with the tourch..

Thanks ... one more thing..




kindly continue...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dear Friends,</p>
<p>Kinldy continue all this, becouse we have learn this all &#8230;</p>
<p>throw stone on other, and not to be possitive, even if the angel come with the tourch..</p>
<p>Thanks &#8230; one more thing..</p>
<p>kindly continue&#8230;</p>
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		<title>by: Sean</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Apr 2008 22:22:50 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>This is ridiculous. I mean, think about it this way:

Asad hires Bilal for his contacts. Bilal is not close to the prince himself, but he has ways of getting to him. So Bilal asks his friend, evidently the ambassador, to get him in contact with the prince. Obviously the ambassador would accompany the two business men to the meeting if he's the one introducing them. 

Yeah, it is a simplified way to look at it, and I'm positive it is the entire reason for his presence there. I doubt it's that easy to meet a prince without contacts. I mean, have you even read this guy's book? He definitely does not have time to spend on &quot;insignificant&quot; business deals when he could be somewhere else. Thus, it only makes sense for the Ambassador's presence at the time. And do you guys have any idea who Asad Jamal is? Too successful to need government money. And seems too wise to get involved in any case. Look him up.

And ontop of that, even if it WAS  a &quot;scandal,&quot; I doubt these people would be so CARELESS as to have a camera present at a time and allow it to be so publicized. Obviously they aren't threatened by this conspiracy because there's nothing to be threatened by.


- Sean</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is ridiculous. I mean, think about it this way:</p>
<p>Asad hires Bilal for his contacts. Bilal is not close to the prince himself, but he has ways of getting to him. So Bilal asks his friend, evidently the ambassador, to get him in contact with the prince. Obviously the ambassador would accompany the two business men to the meeting if he&#8217;s the one introducing them. </p>
<p>Yeah, it is a simplified way to look at it, and I&#8217;m positive it is the entire reason for his presence there. I doubt it&#8217;s that easy to meet a prince without contacts. I mean, have you even read this guy&#8217;s book? He definitely does not have time to spend on &#8220;insignificant&#8221; business deals when he could be somewhere else. Thus, it only makes sense for the Ambassador&#8217;s presence at the time. And do you guys have any idea who Asad Jamal is? Too successful to need government money. And seems too wise to get involved in any case. Look him up.</p>
<p>And ontop of that, even if it WAS  a &#8220;scandal,&#8221; I doubt these people would be so CARELESS as to have a camera present at a time and allow it to be so publicized. Obviously they aren&#8217;t threatened by this conspiracy because there&#8217;s nothing to be threatened by.</p>
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		<title>by: Dreb</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Apr 2008 19:57:47 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>@ Aamir &amp;#38; Faisal Yaar,
The point here is not what Bilal and Asad Jamal are doing in the meeting it is what His Excellency is doing sitting like an idiot. Eplanet ventures is a silicon valley based firm with offices in several countries including INDIA, but they don't have a presense in Pakistan, The ambassador has no business being there, for that matter the meeting would have been hard to arrange without the presidents help, the fact the Bilal Musharraf is working for eplanet is that he gets to open lots of doors for Asad Jamal by being the president's son.

I have been an expat for over 15 years the pressence of Ambassadors in business deals of companies based in america is not part of their official duties, I know numerous businessmen and enterprenuers who don't have the privalage of their countries ambassador sitting like a lame duck in their meeting to &quot;facilitate&quot; them. Try going to any Pakistani Embassy abroad for a problem without a &quot;PAWA&quot; and see what kind of a protocol you get. Then come here and comment about the presidents son doing good for the country.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ Aamir &amp; Faisal Yaar,<br />
The point here is not what Bilal and Asad Jamal are doing in the meeting it is what His Excellency is doing sitting like an idiot. Eplanet ventures is a silicon valley based firm with offices in several countries including INDIA, but they don&#8217;t have a presense in Pakistan, The ambassador has no business being there, for that matter the meeting would have been hard to arrange without the presidents help, the fact the Bilal Musharraf is working for eplanet is that he gets to open lots of doors for Asad Jamal by being the president&#8217;s son.</p>
<p>I have been an expat for over 15 years the pressence of Ambassadors in business deals of companies based in america is not part of their official duties, I know numerous businessmen and enterprenuers who don&#8217;t have the privalage of their countries ambassador sitting like a lame duck in their meeting to &#8220;facilitate&#8221; them. Try going to any Pakistani Embassy abroad for a problem without a &#8220;PAWA&#8221; and see what kind of a protocol you get. Then come here and comment about the presidents son doing good for the country.</p>
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		<title>by: Kashif Aziz</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Mar 2008 09:32:58 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>@Faisal:

&lt;em&gt;DUHH - Pakistani ambassadors often accompany Pakistani businessmen (be it ex-pats) in high level meetings.&lt;/em&gt;

Care to give an example where ambassador accompanied ordinary businessmen? not elements of Military Inc.

About corruption charges against Nawaz and Zardari; its your fav Mushrraf who provided them with NRO umbrella and &quot;free and fair&quot; judiciary acquitted Zardari from all those cases.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Faisal:</p>
<p><em>DUHH - Pakistani ambassadors often accompany Pakistani businessmen (be it ex-pats) in high level meetings.</em></p>
<p>Care to give an example where ambassador accompanied ordinary businessmen? not elements of Military Inc.</p>
<p>About corruption charges against Nawaz and Zardari; its your fav Mushrraf who provided them with NRO umbrella and &#8220;free and fair&#8221; judiciary acquitted Zardari from all those cases.</p>
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		<title>by: Kashif Aziz</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Mar 2008 09:24:18 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>@Aamir 

&lt;em&gt;who knows if the Ambassador was present because the subject matter of the meeting would have been very beneficial to Pakistan, perhaps attracting investment into the country and creating jobs?…. &lt;/em&gt;

aren’t we assuming a lot?

Can you quote another example where Pakistani ambassador was so active and interested in supporting private businessmen?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Aamir </p>
<p><em>who knows if the Ambassador was present because the subject matter of the meeting would have been very beneficial to Pakistan, perhaps attracting investment into the country and creating jobs?…. </em></p>
<p>aren’t we assuming a lot?</p>
<p>Can you quote another example where Pakistani ambassador was so active and interested in supporting private businessmen?</p>
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		<title>by: Faisal Yar</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Mar 2008 00:15:37 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Bravo for brightening up my Friday – a true media sensation.
Maybe eplanet were in Riyadh to solicit Prince Talal's appetite for their future fund. Both Asad and Bilal share Pakistani heritage hence this could be the reason as to why the Pak ambassador was there - this is usual in the BIG WIDE WORLD!!!
 
The author has too much time on his/her hand. The story was laced with &quot;opinion&quot; and evolved into a conspiracy theory. To the questions that highlighted:
 
1. DUHH - Pakistani ambassadors often accompany Pakistani businessmen (be it ex-pats) in high level meetings.
 
2. Billion - what billion. This is a serious allegation against &quot;Musharraf Corporation&quot;  (the word “Corporation” - 10/10 for FOX-type-rhetoric). So the logic of the story is thus:

Musharraf would use Prince Talal (one of the richest man on the planet, note not &quot;eplanet&quot;) as an intermediary to wire billions out of Pakistan and thereafter Prince Talal can then give this to eplanet – again 10 out of 10 for the detective work…NOT.  Oh yeah – and the Ambassador Karim (ex-Naval chief) can oversee the transaction so he could use his Pak Naval connection to load and transfer the greenbacks on Pak Naval ships to Saudi. Perhaps, Ary or Geo can use your script for their next big drama serial!!!
 
How about tackling the existing cases of money-laundering. Mr Nawaz and a certain Zar-dollari spring to mind!!!
 
Ciao</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bravo for brightening up my Friday – a true media sensation.<br />
Maybe eplanet were in Riyadh to solicit Prince Talal&#8217;s appetite for their future fund. Both Asad and Bilal share Pakistani heritage hence this could be the reason as to why the Pak ambassador was there - this is usual in the BIG WIDE WORLD!!!</p>
<p>The author has too much time on his/her hand. The story was laced with &#8220;opinion&#8221; and evolved into a conspiracy theory. To the questions that highlighted:</p>
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<p>DUHH - Pakistani ambassadors often accompany Pakistani businessmen (be it ex-pats) in high level meetings.</p>
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<p>Billion - what billion. This is a serious allegation against &#8220;Musharraf Corporation&#8221;  (the word “Corporation” - 10/10 for FOX-type-rhetoric). So the logic of the story is thus:</p>
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<p>Musharraf would use Prince Talal (one of the richest man on the planet, note not &#8220;eplanet&#8221;) as an intermediary to wire billions out of Pakistan and thereafter Prince Talal can then give this to eplanet – again 10 out of 10 for the detective work…NOT.  Oh yeah – and the Ambassador Karim (ex-Naval chief) can oversee the transaction so he could use his Pak Naval connection to load and transfer the greenbacks on Pak Naval ships to Saudi. Perhaps, Ary or Geo can use your script for their next big drama serial!!!</p>
<p>How about tackling the existing cases of money-laundering. Mr Nawaz and a certain Zar-dollari spring to mind!!!</p>
<p>Ciao</p>
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		<title>by: Aamir Zaidi</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Mar 2008 13:43:40 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>To Editor: aren't we assuming a lot?...  who knows if the Ambassador was present because the subject matter of the meeting would have been very beneficial to Pakistan, perhaps attracting investment into the country and creating jobs?.... after all the British Ambassador would be only to happy to assist leading private British companies to sell products to Gulf investors? why not the Pakistan Ambassador? my point is that we should celebrate a Pakistani success story like ePlanet, so that there are many more ePlanet's, and Pakistan can become a big success, Insha'Allah</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To Editor: aren&#8217;t we assuming a lot?&#8230;  who knows if the Ambassador was present because the subject matter of the meeting would have been very beneficial to Pakistan, perhaps attracting investment into the country and creating jobs?&#8230;. after all the British Ambassador would be only to happy to assist leading private British companies to sell products to Gulf investors? why not the Pakistan Ambassador? my point is that we should celebrate a Pakistani success story like ePlanet, so that there are many more ePlanet&#8217;s, and Pakistan can become a big success, Insha&#8217;Allah</p>
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		<title>by: Shakir Lakhani</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Mar 2008 11:05:09 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Is Bilal Musharraf so wealthy that he can meet a Saudi prince so easily? Isn't it because he's Musharraf's son that he can talk to the high and mighty?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Is Bilal Musharraf so wealthy that he can meet a Saudi prince so easily? Isn&#8217;t it because he&#8217;s Musharraf&#8217;s son that he can talk to the high and mighty?</p>
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		<title>by: Kashif Aziz</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Mar 2008 07:05:01 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>@Aamir: We have no issue in Bilal Musharraf meeting Prince Al-Walid. Its the presence of Pakistani ambassador, that irks us. I can't think of any other incident where Pakistani ambassador (or respective embassy) is that helpful to &quot;private&quot; businesses.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Aamir: We have no issue in Bilal Musharraf meeting Prince Al-Walid. Its the presence of Pakistani ambassador, that irks us. I can&#8217;t think of any other incident where Pakistani ambassador (or respective embassy) is that helpful to &#8220;private&#8221; businesses.</p>
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